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Отправлено 14 Январь 2011 - 23:10

Завтра, 15 января 2011 г., профессор Университета Болоньи Серджио Фокарди (Sergio Focardi) и Andrea Rossi намерены представить на пресс-конференции реактор холодного ядерного синтеза мощностью 10 киловатт.

Суть сообщения в том, что холодный термояд заработал, причем заработал не где-нибудь там в лабораторном опыте, который можно оспорить и на который можно просто не обратить внимания, а в запатентованном реакторе мощностью в 10 киловатт, готовом к коммерческому использованию.

Источником энергии, судя по статье "Hydrogen/Nickel cold fusion probable mechanism" (с обсуждением) в The Journal Of Nuclear Physics, является взаимодействие атомов водорода, растворённого в кристаллической решётке никеля, с ядрами самого никеля. Фундаментальный механизм этого взаимодействия авторам известен только предположительно.

Пресс-конференция состоится 15.01.11 в 12 часов по московскому времени (10 по итальянскому).

Источник: http://www.eternalmi...view&id=3141...

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Отправлено 18 Январь 2011 - 00:29

http://www.cnews.ru/...11/01/17/423596

Реактор холодного термояда изобретен мошенником?

Как мы уже предупреждали в пятницу, в субботу в Университете Болоньи прошла онлайновая пресс-конференция, на которой публике был представлен действующий прототип энергетического источника, дающего 10 киловатт мощности за счет реакции холодного термоядерного синтеза.

Мы до сих пор не можем с уверенностью сказать, сбывшаяся ли это сказка или очередное надувательство, хотя последнее более вероятно.

Андреа Росси (Andrea Rossi), обладатель патента на реактор, всю субботу отвечал в интернете на вопросы интересующихся – в основном ученых, работающих в смежных областях. Отвечал максимально откровенно и от вопросов не уходил. По его словам выходит, что реактор, изготовленный им в сотрудничестве с профессором Университета Болоньи Серджио Фокарди (Sergio Focardi), выдает энергию в десять (или в сто, согласно опубликованной ранее статье) раз превышающую входное питание. Синтез уникальный – соединение водорода с никелем и, соответственно, трансмутация этих элементов в медь. По словам Росси, на одном килограмме никеля реактор может беспрерывно выдавать 10 киловатт энергии в течении 10 тыс. часов (то есть чуть меньше 14 месяцев). Он утверждает также, что через год реактор будет доведен до состояния полной готовности к коммерческому использованию, а через 2-3 года – к массовому производству, и что на этот счет уже имеются контракты с США и рядом стран Европы. Причем стоимость электроэнергии у такого реактора будет около цента за киловатт-час.

Но, похоже, это слишком хорошо, чтобы быть правдой. Журнал New Energy Times, созданный энтузиастами холодного термояда, единственное более или менее серьезное медиа-издание, первое и почти единственное отреагировавшее на это событие, раскопало компромат (см. ниже - К.) на главное действующее лицо – Андреа Росси. Утверждается, что он в прошлом был судим за контрабанду золота из Швейцарии, подвергался судебному преследованию за налоговые мошенничества, а другие блоггеры смутно намекают на его манипуляции с вывозом мусора, в результате чего одна из итальянских провинций потеряла 25 млн долл.

Мы не знаем пока, насколько все это соответствует действительности, тем более что в отношении самого реактора пока никаких серьезных возражений нет, но все идет к тому, что в Италии появился свой собственный Виктор Петрик, изобретатель уникального фильтра для очистки воды, сидевший в тюрьме за мошенничество.

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Отправлено 18 Январь 2011 - 00:41

Rossi Discovery – What to Say? (скопировано со всеми комментариями поьзователей NewEnergyTimes)
http://blog.newenerg...ry-what-to-say/
Posted on January 15, 2011 by Steven B. Krivit

The buzz today is Andrea Rossi’s recent public demonstration in the Physics Department of the University of Bologna, Italy, of a nickel-hydrogen low-energy nuclear reaction device that purportedly produced excess heat.

The original nickel-hydrogen LENR research was developed by Francesco Piantelli, of Siena, Italy. Piantelli was not involved in the recent Rossi demonstration. I have visited Piantelli twice in his lab, and many of the images on the New Energy Times home page are photos I took there.

In July 2008, New Energy Times #29, I reported in great depth on the virtue of the Piantelli et al. nickel-hydrogen LENR research in two articles, Deuterium and Palladium Not Required, Piantelli-Focardi Publication and Replication Path.

I reported how the group’s papers had been published in prestigious peer-reviewed journals and how they successfully responded to challenges by skeptics at CERN, the European center for high-energy physics research. I reported how this experimental design offered liberation from palladium and deuterium. Furthermore, this type of experiment had produced far more energy (heat), not merely power, than many other LENR experiments to date.

Many American LENR researchers were skeptical, I suspect because successful Ni-H LENR technology would make their palladium-deuterium research projects irrelevant. Ni-H also, of course, disproves the hypothesis of “cold fusion,” which is bad news for some LENR researchers.

Piantelli told me that he has known for many years that this type of experiment is inexplicable by the hypothesis “cold fusion.” He is well aware of the abundant heavy- element transmutations he and his colleagues have seen.

Eventually, a few Americans quietly began asking for my assistance to make contact with Piantelli, probably because he is a hard man to reach. I do not know whether they succeeded. American Michael Melich, affiliated with the Naval Postgraduate School and with the Naval Research Laboratory, is on Rossi’s team of advisers.

For the last year or so, Rossi has been pumping the Web and rumor mill with bold claims, distributing documents with serious ambiguities, and appearing to sell a questionable energy device. This is a shame because the underlying technology and potential energy is real and important.

I have examined in scientific papers and experimental data by Piantelli, the claims of excess heat, evidence of nuclear emissions and transmutations to my satisfaction.

What has occurred now? Has Rossi developed a functional understanding of this LENR system? I think he has.

But the time-honored question to ask in all situations like this is, What is the total energy balance? Anybody who gets excited about this public demonstration without such information is vulnerable to deception. The next questions to ask are, Exactly how has the energy been measured? And by whom?

A power measurement – without the total energy balance – is virtually meaningless. Without answers to these questions, this experiment and demonstration could easily be a scam. Sadly, I have been a first-hand witness to deceptions.

The red flags with Rossi have been up for months.

In October 2010, a New Energy Times reader in Italy sent the following to me:

“I imagine you are aware that Rossi’s patent [application] has been [partially] rejected in a preliminary report by the patent examiner. Piantelli also published a new WIPO patent [application] a few months ago too.

“I wish Rossi well in his endeavors although I also feel he’s claiming as an invention merely the scaling up of Piantelli’s pioneering work. Any working devices ought to be good news for mankind regardless [of] who discovered what first. If anything works, we will all get some share of the glory (and perhaps profits?).”

Today, another New Energy Times reader in Italy sent the following to me:

“Pay close attention to Andrea Rossi; he has a dirty past. Twenty years ago he was arrested for illegal importing of gold from the Swiss.

“Not only that, but in the 1980s he was involved in a scam with industrial waste. It is a complex thing to explain, but the scam cost the Lombardy region € 25 million. He honestly does not convince me as a person, and I am not convinced about the test done at Bologna today.

“Check this link: http://it.wikipedia....ki/Petroldragon

“In friendship, I suggest you be careful, I smell something burning.”

According to the link, in 1995, Rossi was jailed for conspiracy to engage in tax fraud for his involvement in a business that was trading precious materials between Switzerland and Italy.



10 комментариев пользователей к статье "Rossi Discovery – What to Say?"

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      Brian Ahern:
      January 15, 2011 at 18:48

      I am devastated to learn about Rossi’s criminal record and how badly he conducted his demonstration. Converting water to wet steam versus dry steam can account for a factor of ten in the input:output ratios. The steam phase is to be avoided if you want any reliability in the output/input energies.

      I still hope that he stumbled onto an improvement over Piantelli. My own work is showing results similar to Piantelli, so I am confident that ‘something is happening’. I am meeting with Prof. Nabil Lawandy next Thursday. His Dec 09 article in App. Phys. Letts showed a method for achieving hyper-dense hydrogen.

      Lawandy also has discovered a mechanism to release energy without any gamma rays. He is a top notch physicist with hundreds of patents to his name.


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      Peter Gluck:
      January 16, 2011 at 07:52

      Dear Steve,

      This time, I disagree with your approach- the main subject, the essence, the core of the thing is that this event was a first official demonstration of commercial LENR. I have no doubts regarding the validity of the results, mainly on the basis of the results obtained by Prof. Francesco Piantelli- and this was a kind of continuation, variant, etc. of the Piantelli system. It works- and I have waited almost 22 years for that.

      The fact that Rossi is not a Lancelot is interesting, some of his sins could actually be technical failures- they happen to the best of us is not the most relevant issue. Have these character flaws- if proved, some influence on the efficiency of the generators?

      Best wishes,
      Peter

    Steven B. Krivit:
            January 16, 2011 at 17:38

            Dear Peter,

            I treasure your optimism and enthusiasm, it is worth its weight in gold. In my years of following this topic, I have learned to become cautious. There are two crucial things I have learned, above all others: 1) Trust the scientific process. 2) Do not trust claims of promoters unless independently verified.

            As far as your assertion of the “first official demonstration of commercial LENR,” I think your enthusiasm has overtaken your memory. Let’s not forget the Patterson Power Cell. Or Russ George’s 1 kiloWatt fusion powered heater. Or Innovative Energy Solutions Inc.

            Your optimism is essential, as is a demand for scientific rigor and independent validation.

            Best regards,
            Steven



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      Rossi Andrea:
      January 16, 2011 at 08:20

      About what I am reading in your blog I have to say that:
      1- The test of Bologna has been directed from experts and they know the difference between dry steam and wet steam. The percentage of water in the steam has been measured
      2- I have been cleared from the issues that have “devastated” mr Brian Ahern. If you go to
      http://www.ingandrearossi.com
      you will find all the documents: I had been accused of crimes from which I have been cleared. I am not here to talk of this past personal tragedy, but if you really want to know what happened, please go there and find the necessary documents.
      3- My process has nothing to do with the process of Piantelli. The proof is that I am making operatring reactors, he is not
      4- What I have presented is not a theory or a laboratory prototype waiting for the approval of anybody but the market: we are starting an industrial production of out reactors. If somebody has a technology able to compete, the competition will not be on the blogs, but on the market. In this field the time of mental masturbations is over. Now is time for facts, and facts are operating reactors of satisfied Customers.
      5- I know you and I know you are serious persons: therefore I hope a correct information will start between us from now.
      my email:
      info@leonardocorp1996.com
      Warm Regards,
      Andrea Rossi

Steven B. Krivit:
            January 16, 2011 at 18:00

            See message above from Peter Gluck: “I have no doubts regarding the validity of the results, mainly on the basis of the results obtained by Prof. Francesco Piantelli- and this was a kind of continuation, variant, etc. of the Piantelli system.”

            sam green:
            January 16, 2011 at 18:13

            The fact that you are here, and that LENR advocates are arguing about the validity of your demonstration, about wet and dry steam, about the amount of input energy, about input hydrogen, etc, shows that you have a long way to go to move past mental masturbation.

            You claim 10 kW, and even the supporters argue about the calorimetry. Unbelievable.



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      sam green:
      January 16, 2011 at 17:37

      If this device uses input heat, and produces 10 times more output heat, then why can’t you turn off the input after it has started? Shouldn’t the heat generated by the nuclear reaction be more than enough to keep itself going?

      A device which can produce 10 kernels of wheat from one kernel, only needs one kernel to feed the world.


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      Peter Gluck:
      January 16, 2011 at 19:34

      Dear Steve,
      I am not forgetting any of the “jump like a lion, fall like a shit” cases from the long history of Cold Fusion. You well know my poisoning hypothesis that explains why these cases have happened.
      All I wanted to tell is that I think this demonstration at Bologna was something I have waited for, for long years and this changes the situation radically.
      Andrea Rossi’s statement that his system has nothing to do with Piantelli’s seems me kind of poetical exaggeration, there are small chances he constructed it ab ovo. However, audiatur et altera pars.
      We all have to focus on the essentials.
      I agree with Andrea that in this case, at this stage- independent replication is a non-existant idea
      something unrealistic and – will be not done..

Steven B. Krivit:
            January 16, 2011 at 20:10

            My dear Peter,

            I am happy that you have seen what you have been wanting to see for 22 years. May you continue to see many more successful LENR demonstrations in the future.

            My very best to you and your family,

            Steven



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      Steven B. Krivit:
      January 16, 2011 at 23:48

Received via e-mail:

Hi Steve,

      I read your two stories at New Energy Times, and while I appreciate the points you brought up, I need to say that I’m not convinced that these discredit him substantially.

      First, I looked through the http://ingandrearossi.com/ website (linked from the Wikipedia article), which describes the waste-to-energy and imprisonment from Rossi’s vantage point.

      Given how corrupt the various governments of the world have become, it seems to me to be more of a case of suppression on their part than of an act of a serious moral breach on the part of Rossi. At worst, it was a violation of a law unknown to Rossi. We see that kind of thing regularly in the free energy world as outside-the-box inventors try to also run businesses, but don’t know how to do so and can get in trouble.

      Second, regarding the Journal of Nuclear Physics; again I can relate to Rossi. In a world where academia has spurned cold fusion as a political hot potato, rejecting papers on political, not scientific grounds, I can see why someone would try to provide an alternative method of publishing material along these lines.

      I agree that it does look a bit hokey, but I cut him a lot of slack for the above reason. I certainly wouldn’t call it a “scam” as a result.

      It seems to me that rather than jumping to a stance of criticism, you should try to encourage and validate the amazing claim.

      That is what I plan on saying in my article, unless you have some other perspectives that you think I should consider.

      Your comments?

      Sterling



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Отправлено 18 Январь 2011 - 00:45

Rossi and Focardi Energy Amplifier: Reality or Scam?
http://blog.newenerg...eality-or-scam/

By Steven B. Krivit

Journal of Nuclear Physics? Really?

- A web site registered in California by a secret entity.
- A “journal” that is not a journal but a blog.
- A blog name that resembles the (real) former Soviet Journal of Nuclear Physics.
- A virtual “editor” comprised of a “team of scientists.”
- A “team of scientists” who’s only active participant appears to be Andrea Rossi.
- A “10 kW module reactor” that is anybody’s guess.

Record of e-mail exchange, Jan. 12, 2011:
*****
Dear Editor,
Who is the editor of JONP?
Thank you,
Steven B. Krivit
Editor, New Energy Times
*****
The editor of JONP is a team of scientists who finance the Journal.
We have no owner and we are a free association. We publish for free
all the papers that our Board Of Advisers deems scientifically valid
and we do not accept advertising to remain completely independent.
Warm regards,
JONP, The Board Of Advisers
*****
To whom am I speaking please?
Rossi?
Focardi?
*****
I am writing on behalf of the board of advisers,
Andrea Rossi
JONPwebsite.jpg





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